Comments on: Why Safari Sucks: 1. The Back Button http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/ Sharing useful things with the world. Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:51:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michael http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-25591 Michael Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:51:15 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-25591 <p>It is 2011 and this back button problem still exists. It is worse on my MacBook Pro because you have to push the darn touchpad hard to make a click. (The touchpad is a whole other problem, but I'll skip that.) </p> <p>I use a lot of different computers and a lot of different browsers but Safari is my favorite. If I used one machine and one browser always and a regular mouse, I am sure I would just get used to this behavior and wonder what the heck was wrong when I went to another computer. </p> <p>So, calling people morons or retarded or "solving" this by programming your feaking 5-button mouse is hardly helpful. (But, at least the programming reply was an attempt to be positive.) Maybe, just Maybe, the purpose of this forum should be to give helpful advice or discuss the design issue constructively.</p> <p>But, I am here because this this "back button" behavior drives me nuts and the touchpad behavior exacerbates it and I am finding no alternative except going to Firefox full time. (I never use IE or any MS product if I can avoid it.) The real solution, as suggested in the original post, is for Safari designers to change the timing or other aspects of the behavior OR give the user the ability to set/hack this feature.</p> It is 2011 and this back button problem still exists. It is worse on my MacBook Pro because you have to push the darn touchpad hard to make a click. (The touchpad is a whole other problem, but I’ll skip that.)

I use a lot of different computers and a lot of different browsers but Safari is my favorite. If I used one machine and one browser always and a regular mouse, I am sure I would just get used to this behavior and wonder what the heck was wrong when I went to another computer.

So, calling people morons or retarded or “solving” this by programming your feaking 5-button mouse is hardly helpful. (But, at least the programming reply was an attempt to be positive.) Maybe, just Maybe, the purpose of this forum should be to give helpful advice or discuss the design issue constructively.

But, I am here because this this “back button” behavior drives me nuts and the touchpad behavior exacerbates it and I am finding no alternative except going to Firefox full time. (I never use IE or any MS product if I can avoid it.) The real solution, as suggested in the original post, is for Safari designers to change the timing or other aspects of the behavior OR give the user the ability to set/hack this feature.

]]> By: Matthew http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-25558 Matthew Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:19:26 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-25558 <p>Yes I know this topic is probably alredy done now. but when i use Safari i'll be on chat websites and such and if i push the backspace button it takes me back TO THE LAST PAGE. This is getting me very irritated and making me want to switch back to firefox. If this is only windows problem (I use windows) tell me and ill switch back. Unless it is a total fail in my book on things like that such as chat. Other than that it is fine I handles fine and no lag unlike IE8 and Firefox. If this is for regular use (no chatting) than this is definetly a great web browser.</p> Yes I know this topic is probably alredy done now. but when i use Safari i’ll be on chat websites and such and if i push the backspace button it takes me back TO THE LAST PAGE. This is getting me very irritated and making me want to switch back to firefox. If this is only windows problem (I use windows) tell me and ill switch back. Unless it is a total fail in my book on things like that such as chat. Other than that it is fine I handles fine and no lag unlike IE8 and Firefox. If this is for regular use (no chatting) than this is definetly a great web browser.

]]> By: Anica http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-25184 Anica Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:10:19 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-25184 <p>Are you too retarded to click a button more than once? You click it once, you get a menu - so click somewhere else and try again. </p> <p>This "for a fraction of a second" bullshit is ridiculous - I click back on Safari, I go back. I click forward, I go forward. If I hold the button, I get the menu - I never get "stuck in a mode" and can't get back. Why? I'm not over-thinking this - you are and you're making it something you won't like because you have a bad attitude and feel like technology should "just work" for you. </p> <p>You're a moron.</p> Are you too retarded to click a button more than once? You click it once, you get a menu – so click somewhere else and try again.

This “for a fraction of a second” bullshit is ridiculous – I click back on Safari, I go back. I click forward, I go forward. If I hold the button, I get the menu – I never get “stuck in a mode” and can’t get back. Why? I’m not over-thinking this – you are and you’re making it something you won’t like because you have a bad attitude and feel like technology should “just work” for you.

You’re a moron.

]]> By: joeband http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-25153 joeband Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:37:10 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-25153 <p>I admit Safari is one hell of the fast browser. But it's useless when a browser has no back tools tabs. I like the simplicity but it just over done and make it useless in windows OS.</p> I admit Safari is one hell of the fast browser. But it’s useless when a browser has no back tools tabs. I like the simplicity but it just over done and make it useless in windows OS.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-25068 Mike Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:34:39 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-25068 <p>i hate safari because i can not get to work my optional buttons on my mouse to go back or forward!</p> i hate safari because i can not get to work my optional buttons on my mouse to go back or forward!

]]> By: Bread http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-24929 Bread Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:18:47 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-24929 <p>I don't find it that hard to just move the mouse a little downward and let go. Or I just use the keyboard shortcut (I'm a keyboardholic)</p> I don’t find it that hard to just move the mouse a little downward and let go. Or I just use the keyboard shortcut (I’m a keyboardholic)

]]> By: Mushilele http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-22864 Mushilele Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:10:48 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-22864 <p>Thanks Meredith. My back button is ... well ... back.</p> Thanks Meredith. My back button is … well … back.

]]> By: Meredith http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-21426 Meredith Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:50:25 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-21426 <p>My back button disappeared also, but if you go into view and customize address bar you can get it back.</p> My back button disappeared also, but if you go into view and customize address bar you can get it back.

]]> By: Steve http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-19180 Steve Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:18:39 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-19180 <p>My back button is gone too. Help.</p> My back button is gone too. Help.

]]> By: R Taillon http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/comment-page-1/#comment-18467 R Taillon Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:50:47 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/02/15/why-safari-sucks-1-the-back-button/#comment-18467 <p>My back button has completely disappeared too. I know I can hit command-{ but how do I get my back button to reappear????? Please email me if you have a solution.</p> My back button has completely disappeared too. I know I can hit command-{ but how do I get my back button to reappear????? Please email me if you have a solution.

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