Comments on: More about Flood Maps http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/ Sharing useful things with the world. Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:42:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Amy Boleszny http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-24594 Amy Boleszny Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:14:23 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-24594 <p>Hi</p> <p>I thought you would like to know that our dumb government is about to pay out $2 million to do what you have already done.</p> <p>I sent Penny Wong the following message as I think your work should be recognised.</p> <p>Cheers</p> <p>Amy</p> <p>I was horrified to find out that you are planning to spend $2 million on digital mapping to find out what homes/cities are likely to flood due to climate change when this work has not only already been done but has been available on the Internet from a reputable source for at least 2 years using quite sophisticated mapping technology and reported in the late lamented Bulletin!!</p> <p>Check out http://flood.firetree.net and www.science.org.au/nova.</p> <p>The link from the Nova article is still operative and the full URL appears in the extract below as the short form of the URL does not always work. Teh map is able to be manipulated for the whole of Australia and for rises in sea levels in incremental values up to 14 metres.</p> <p>Sea level rise (Firetree.net) Shows map of Australia with possible sea levels due to global warming. Controls for sea level rise and zooming in on a region are available. http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=-27.8390,138.1640&z=13&m=7</p> Hi

I thought you would like to know that our dumb government is about to pay out $2 million to do what you have already done.

I sent Penny Wong the following message as I think your work should be recognised.

Cheers

Amy

I was horrified to find out that you are planning to spend $2 million on digital mapping to find out what homes/cities are likely to flood due to climate change when this work has not only already been done but has been available on the Internet from a reputable source for at least 2 years using quite sophisticated mapping technology and reported in the late lamented Bulletin!!

Check out http://flood.firetree.net and http://www.science.org.au/nova.

The link from the Nova article is still operative and the full URL appears in the extract below as the short form of the URL does not always work. Teh map is able to be manipulated for the whole of Australia and for rises in sea levels in incremental values up to 14 metres.

Sea level rise (Firetree.net) Shows map of Australia with possible sea levels due to global warming. Controls for sea level rise and zooming in on a region are available. http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=-27.8390,138.1640&z=13&m=7

]]> By: Allan Pinvidic http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-24398 Allan Pinvidic Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:03:53 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-24398 <p>Hello, This is an interesting application. I have been working on a documentary about tsunamis and Cascadia Subduction zone earthquake that will cause a huge tsunami in the order of the 2004 Indian Ocean event. That event saw floods of over 30m in some areas. Various scientists along the west coast of North America are trying to model the tsunami danger zones. Although you have purposed this app. for global warming, tsunami could be another use of your application, in a simpler way, for people to know if they are in the danger zone or not. Coastal towns and cities could use this for emergency planning if they don't have access to the latest CG tsunami modelling.</p> <p>NOAA in Seattle, Pacific Geoscience Centre in Victoria,BC and Oregon State University in Corvallis could, I think, also be interested in this.</p> Hello, This is an interesting application. I have been working on a documentary about tsunamis and Cascadia Subduction zone earthquake that will cause a huge tsunami in the order of the 2004 Indian Ocean event. That event saw floods of over 30m in some areas. Various scientists along the west coast of North America are trying to model the tsunami danger zones. Although you have purposed this app. for global warming, tsunami could be another use of your application, in a simpler way, for people to know if they are in the danger zone or not. Coastal towns and cities could use this for emergency planning if they don’t have access to the latest CG tsunami modelling.

NOAA in Seattle, Pacific Geoscience Centre in Victoria,BC and Oregon State University in Corvallis could, I think, also be interested in this.

]]> By: Mark Northrup http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-23499 Mark Northrup Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:25:59 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-23499 <p>Hello,</p> <p>I am a university student who will be doing a presentation on the effects of Climate Change for an assignment and would like to use some of your flooding images as part of my Power Point presentation. What is necessary for gaining the permission to do so. It would be used for strictly academic, non-commercial purposes and the source would be properly cited, of course. </p> <p>Thank You for replying in advance.</p> Hello,

I am a university student who will be doing a presentation on the effects of Climate Change for an assignment and would like to use some of your flooding images as part of my Power Point presentation. What is necessary for gaining the permission to do so. It would be used for strictly academic, non-commercial purposes and the source would be properly cited, of course.

Thank You for replying in advance.

]]> By: Sarant http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-23355 Sarant Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:15:33 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-23355 <p>Working in disaster mitigation and emergency preparedness I am very interested in this forum. So many thanks. The api for Google Earth is very useful but the levels presented by John are false on my own floods experiences. On this site, the pixel level is not enough precise for my tasks. But all of you are on the good way for the next future.</p> <p>Please tell me when you reach a new step and I will tell you how it is corresponding with my back floods experiences.</p> Working in disaster mitigation and emergency preparedness I am very interested in this forum. So many thanks. The api for Google Earth is very useful but the levels presented by John are false on my own floods experiences. On this site, the pixel level is not enough precise for my tasks. But all of you are on the good way for the next future.

Please tell me when you reach a new step and I will tell you how it is corresponding with my back floods experiences.

]]> By: Flood Risk Assessment http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-23193 Flood Risk Assessment Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:37:20 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-23193 <p>Alex, you seem to have inspired a multitude to follow in your footsteps. I would be very interested to see the use of .KML or.KMZ more widespread.</p> Alex, you seem to have inspired a multitude to follow in your footsteps. I would be very interested to see the use of .KML or.KMZ more widespread.

]]> By: John Melendy http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22847 John Melendy Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:07:46 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22847 <p>I apoogize, this is my first attempt at doing anything in KML, so it is pretty unsophisticated. </p> <p>There also seems to be a mime type issue with the webserver hosting my files. I don't have control over it, so there are a couple of things you could try. If you use IE7, it will download as a zip file. Either un-zip it, or change the extension to ".kmz". If you are using FireFox, you will need to right-click on the link and use "Save Target As...". Since it uses KML 2.2, you need to have a very recent version of Google Earth. I am using Google Earth 4.2.0198.2451, which is (I think) the latest one posted on the Google website. </p> <p>In terms of actually using it, I assume that you have the sidebar in Google Earth enabled. If not you will need to. Then pick the location on the coast that you would like to look at. You will need to be zoomed in pretty close to start with - the closer, the smoother the image. Once you open the .KML or .KMZ file, there should be some new layers in the "Temporary Places" section. I set up 1-meter through 7-meter layers. Check and uncheck the desired layers.</p> <p>If there is another problem going on, you can try emailing me at: jmelendy(replace this section with the appropriate character)pobox.com.</p> I apoogize, this is my first attempt at doing anything in KML, so it is pretty unsophisticated.

There also seems to be a mime type issue with the webserver hosting my files. I don’t have control over it, so there are a couple of things you could try. If you use IE7, it will download as a zip file. Either un-zip it, or change the extension to “.kmz”. If you are using FireFox, you will need to right-click on the link and use “Save Target As…”. Since it uses KML 2.2, you need to have a very recent version of Google Earth. I am using Google Earth 4.2.0198.2451, which is (I think) the latest one posted on the Google website.

In terms of actually using it, I assume that you have the sidebar in Google Earth enabled. If not you will need to. Then pick the location on the coast that you would like to look at. You will need to be zoomed in pretty close to start with - the closer, the smoother the image. Once you open the .KML or .KMZ file, there should be some new layers in the “Temporary Places” section. I set up 1-meter through 7-meter layers. Check and uncheck the desired layers.

If there is another problem going on, you can try emailing me at: jmelendy(replace this section with the appropriate character)pobox.com.

]]> By: jo http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22812 jo Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:24:33 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22812 <p>@JohnMelendy,</p> <p>Sorry, neither of your two links work for me.</p> <p>Perhaps there's something I don't know that you could please explain to me ?</p> <p>jo.</p> @JohnMelendy,

Sorry, neither of your two links work for me.

Perhaps there’s something I don’t know that you could please explain to me ?

jo.

]]> By: John Melendy http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22758 John Melendy Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:19:36 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22758 <p>Actually, these links might work better: http://mysite.verizon.net/res0mbcb/KML/worldsealevelrise.kmz http://mysite.verizon.net/res0mbcb/KML/oregonsealevelrise.kmz</p> <p>Sorry about that....</p> Actually, these links might work better: http://mysite.verizon.net/res0mbcb/KML/worldsealevelrise.kmz http://mysite.verizon.net/res0mbcb/KML/oregonsealevelrise.kmz

Sorry about that….

]]> By: John Melendy http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22757 John Melendy Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:18:14 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22757 <p>Since I am interested in try to visualize sea-level rise in Google Earth, I tried creating a similar type of overlay. Being very impatient, and a lot less concerned with accuracy, I simply used a groundOverlay to take advantage of GoogleEarth's built in elevation data. This approach is very simple, but has a number of major limitations. The elevation data in the GE app appears to be pretty crude, especially outside of the USA. Also, the rendering is almost useless above about 10 miles view elevation. One great advantage is that the file can be edited to view any arbitrary sea-level rise. Since I am mostly concerned with creating perspective views of altered sea-levels as references for drawings and illustrations the limitations are not a problem for me. Other uses may get significantly less mileage.</p> <p>For those interested, a KML can be found here: http://mysite.verizon.net/res0mbcb/KML/world<em>sealevel</em>rise.kmz and http://mysite.verizon.net/res0mbcb/KML/oregon<em>sealevel</em>rise.kmz Hopefully, somebody can take that idea and do something more useful with it, or will be of some interest to someone else.</p> <p>Cheers, John Melendy</p> Since I am interested in try to visualize sea-level rise in Google Earth, I tried creating a similar type of overlay. Being very impatient, and a lot less concerned with accuracy, I simply used a groundOverlay to take advantage of GoogleEarth’s built in elevation data. This approach is very simple, but has a number of major limitations. The elevation data in the GE app appears to be pretty crude, especially outside of the USA. Also, the rendering is almost useless above about 10 miles view elevation. One great advantage is that the file can be edited to view any arbitrary sea-level rise. Since I am mostly concerned with creating perspective views of altered sea-levels as references for drawings and illustrations the limitations are not a problem for me. Other uses may get significantly less mileage.

For those interested, a KML can be found here: http://mysite.verizon.net/res0mbcb/KML/worldsealevelrise.kmz and http://mysite.verizon.net/res0mbcb/KML/oregonsealevelrise.kmz Hopefully, somebody can take that idea and do something more useful with it, or will be of some interest to someone else.

Cheers, John Melendy

]]> By: Paul Klinkman http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22644 Paul Klinkman Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:25:55 +0000 http://blog.firetree.net/2006/05/18/more-about-flood-maps/#comment-22644 <p>Have you considered James Hansen and collaberators' speculation that 3 million years ago sea levels were 25 meters higher than now? This was deliberately written into a global warming article.</p> <p>We must simultaneously be responsible to the credible skeptics, who honestly want to gauge whether global warming is much of a certainty, and be responsible to the world in general, who honestly want to know the 50% and 10% worst-case possibilities. Dr. Hansen does a service to the latter group in raising the possibility of a massive meltdown, based on historical records. </p> <p>Given that all empirical evidence of north pole melting is badly outstripping the theories, I'd like to see what a 25 meter ocean level rise would look like. For a bonus, I'd like to see what Greenland and Antarctica would look like post-melt.</p> <p>I live in Rhode Island, and I would hope that our bayfront property would be properly flooded (whenever you can get to that section). Half of our state's buildings are in the flood area. Rhode Island could be half-gone!</p> <p>Thanks for listening, -Paul Klinkman</p> Have you considered James Hansen and collaberators’ speculation that 3 million years ago sea levels were 25 meters higher than now? This was deliberately written into a global warming article.

We must simultaneously be responsible to the credible skeptics, who honestly want to gauge whether global warming is much of a certainty, and be responsible to the world in general, who honestly want to know the 50% and 10% worst-case possibilities. Dr. Hansen does a service to the latter group in raising the possibility of a massive meltdown, based on historical records.

Given that all empirical evidence of north pole melting is badly outstripping the theories, I’d like to see what a 25 meter ocean level rise would look like. For a bonus, I’d like to see what Greenland and Antarctica would look like post-melt.

I live in Rhode Island, and I would hope that our bayfront property would be properly flooded (whenever you can get to that section). Half of our state’s buildings are in the flood area. Rhode Island could be half-gone!

Thanks for listening, -Paul Klinkman

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